"a believer" seems to be our new apologist/disobedient sheep.
"a believer" ignores the "spirit-directed"/"bible-based" commands of the gb/fds!
shame on you, "a believer"!!!!
A Believer,
From where do you guys get that I shouldn't be here?
First, you've been told in no uncertain terms why you shouldn't be here if you are a faithful Witness.
Second, you should know without having to be told.
It's your organization that will disfellowship you for that. I've known people getting disfellowshipped for reading Crisis of Conscience.
i remember when i was about 17, i started shunning an older brother because he was disfellowshipped.
when i graduated high school, he pulled me aside and said " i know you are not supposed to talk to me, but i want you to have this" it was a gift that he had custom made for me.
i was so blown away, we never even had a real conversation before.
Yes. A kind couple let me into their home for a few days when I was having problems with my (non-JW) family. He was an elder.
Another "Sister" had me stay over when my mom and dad got back together after 17 years. She was a make-up artist for the bible dramas. I assisted her in removing the false beards (glued) and tinted skin ("Egyptian brown") of the actors.
can jws read publications by other churches?
or by atheists?
i've always heard these are apostate materials.
The elder who studied with me and took out on my first day of field service said that we were not under any circumstances to accept anyone else's literature.
according to some, the earth may have 10 billion people living on it by the end of this century.
there is genuine concern about space and resources.. imagine, then, 100 billion people being resurrected to live on earth.
some jws will argue that not everyone will be resurrected to earth, including 144,000. imagine 50 billion then, assuming that half of the people who ever lived did something so horrific that they aren't deemed worthy to be resurrected.. jws who are lurking and reading this: where are they going to live?
DATA-DOG,
If Jeehobo makes the Earth bigger, how would that affect our atmosphere?
If the Earth were twice our current diameter it would have four times the surface area but with greater gravity. Don't know what that would do to our atmosphere except perhaps compressing it somewhat.
according to some, the earth may have 10 billion people living on it by the end of this century.
there is genuine concern about space and resources.. imagine, then, 100 billion people being resurrected to live on earth.
some jws will argue that not everyone will be resurrected to earth, including 144,000. imagine 50 billion then, assuming that half of the people who ever lived did something so horrific that they aren't deemed worthy to be resurrected.. jws who are lurking and reading this: where are they going to live?
Come on folks. Some simple facts and figures.
The Earth's land surface is 57 million square miles (Including oceans, 196 million). Divided into 100 billion that comes out to about 1750 people per square mile. That rounds off to 3 persons per acre (208 X 208 square feet).
That's much less than suburban density in the United States. It's also possible to feed that many with such land density under ideal - but not realistic - conditions.
Just playing devil's advocate.
i bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..
I use to hang out with a couple of Witnesses whose IQs were in the genius range (170 for one of them). We would research the original Greek and Hebrew, in interlineal books, covering subjects such as the Trinity and Hell. We were a little above the rest of the Witnesses. When I went out in field service I would take the Make Sure of all Things book in order to quickly research any subject that might be brought up.
ok, the bible is a fascinating book of fairy tales, so we move on..e. zolfagharifard, some guy states "humans will be very different creatures in just 1000 years from now due to climate change,artificial intelligence and genetic mutations are all set to transform our bodies in drastic ways.
a mixture of biology and machine on the inside.
this is only 1000 years from now, what the hell will humans look like in 100000 years????
E. Zolfagharifard, some guy states "Humans will be very different creatures in just 1000 years from now due to climate change,artificial intelligence and genetic mutations are all set to transform our bodies in drastic ways.
A 100,000 years into the future is too long to make a meaningful explanation. A 1,000 years is doable.
Climate change would have disappeared by a 100,000 or even a thousand years from now. It only takes a few centuries for Carbon Dioxide to be stabilized by natural forces assuming no more of it is put out by the burning of fossil fuels.
A mixture of biology and machine on the inside. This is only 1000 years from now, what the hell will humans look like in 100000 years?????The big question, will JW's still be around and preaching the END is near????
We may become cyborgs, to one extent or another, a 1,000 years from now.
Medicines such as Deprenyl that exist now can extend our lives by as much as 50% as experiments with laboratory rats has shown. Calorie reduction has also extended the lives of experimental rats. You basically eat 2/3 of what you normally will eat with high potency multi-vitamins to keep you from getting malnutrition. Both of them combined might extend your lifespan even more.
In the near future we might actually figure out how to extend telomeres in our DNA with unknown improvements in our lifespan.
As for JWs and Christianity in general, they may both disappear if our world were to become a better place to live in. Religion, particularly JWs and fundamentalist Christianity, thrives on misery and a loathing of the ego. Happiness is the solution to both of them.
their fundamental beliefs are much like jehovah's witnesses sans the paranoia, authoritarianism, stifling rules, and end-times enthusiasm.
you don't even have to become a bible student to be saved, you could be an idol worshipping heathen and still get resurrected in the milenium.
if i still believed in the divine inspiration of the scriptures, i would be a bible student.
It took a militaristic dictator like Joseph Rutherford to greatly expand the numbers of JWs to where they're at now. The Bible Students' groups stayed small because their members had no such "visionary" and they were mild and meek.
their fundamental beliefs are much like jehovah's witnesses sans the paranoia, authoritarianism, stifling rules, and end-times enthusiasm.
you don't even have to become a bible student to be saved, you could be an idol worshipping heathen and still get resurrected in the milenium.
if i still believed in the divine inspiration of the scriptures, i would be a bible student.
The Bible Students still put out a reprint of Russell's first six books Studies in the Scriptures. It's printed as the 1916 edition and still has Russell's prophecy that 1799-1914 are the last days" and 1914 the beginning of the Millennium.
You can still order the set of all six books from the Chicago Bible Students for $18.
i hope nobody would fall for this.
not sure what can be done though.... .
I got a phone call from the usual foreign accented one and I had fun grilling him with questions. He was exasperated knowing that I wasn't going to do what he wanted but kept talking to him anyways.
Try it sometime. They're used to being hung-up on not hanging up themselves.
